Fanatec CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce vs MOZA R12
The R12 produces 12 Nm against the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce's 8 Nm, 1.5 times the force at the rim. The R12 costs $50.99 less than the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce. They also differ on 1 more published field, shown in the sheet below.
What separates them
- Price$479.99vs$429
The R12 costs $50.99 less than the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce.
- Torque8 Nm peakvs12 Nm peak
The R12 produces 12 Nm against the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce's 8 Nm, 1.5 times the force at the rim.
- Quick releaseQR2vsSupported
Specs side by side
| Fanatec CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce | MOZA R12 | |
|---|---|---|
| Where they differ | ||
| Price | $479.99 | $429 |
| Torque | 8 Nm peak | 12 Nm peak |
| Quick release | QR2 | Supported |
| Published by one side | ||
| Drive system | direct-drive | Not published |
| Mounting | T-nut rail system on sides and bottom | Not published |
| Input voltage | Not published | 110 V to 220 V AC in, 36 V DC out |
| Weight | 6.85kg | Not published |
| Platforms | PC, Xbox Series X|S | Not published |
| Same figure on both | ||
| Rim in the box | Noboth | |
| Pedals in the box | Noboth | |
Fanatec CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce: pros, cons, and who it suits
Pros
- Works on PC, which the R12 does not list support for.
- Works on Xbox Series X|S, which the R12 does not list support for.
Cons
- Produces 8 Nm where the R12 produces 12 Nm, a shortfall of 4.0 Nm, or 67% of its peak force.
- Costs $50.99 more than the R12.
Who it suits
At 8 Nm this sits in the middle torque band of the database, between 6 and 12 Nm, and in the $300 to $600 price band.
MOZA R12: pros, cons, and who it suits
Pros
- Produces 12 Nm against the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce's 8 Nm, which is 1.5 times the peak force at the rim.
- Costs $50.99 less than the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce.
- Better force per dollar: 28.0 Nm per $1,000 against 16.7.
Cons
- No published PC support, where the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce lists it.
- No published Xbox Series X|S support, where the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce lists it.
Who it suits
At 12 Nm this sits in the middle torque band of the database, between 6 and 12 Nm, and in the $300 to $600 price band.
Which should you choose?
On budget alone, the R12 is the cheaper of the two at $429, against $479.99 for the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce.
On force, the R12 is the stronger unit at 12 Nm. Peak torque is the most the motor can produce. You set the level you drive at below it.
If you are on PC, only the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce publishes support for it.
If you are on Xbox Series X|S, only the CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce publishes support for it.
Where to buy
Full CSL DD (8 Nm) FullForce specs · Full R12 specs
Every spec on this page was read from the manufacturer's own published documentation.